The various batches:
It's incredibly difficult to get any manufacturer to actually give us what we want...
Batch 1: Amaxinno
They included a center screw that was 1mm too short but it still worked out. The included spare screws were usable in place of that short screw. It also turns out that button head M2 screws can strip even though they're hardened steel. We've asked them to switch to socket cap in the next batch. For best results to avoid stripping, don't use a 1.5mm hex driver that fits loosely or is worn out in any way.
Batch 2: NamelessRC
You'll know you have this one because their carbon has a smooth rubber-ish finish on it...which adds weight annoyingly but it's not much. They did a great job on the screws but messed up on the lower plate and cut an old file. That's why you received a second version with the updated design. Up to you which you want to use but the skinnier one is lighter...
Batch 3: CNC Maddness
You'll know you have this because it says 'Made in Canada' in the bag! The cuts from CNC Maddness are by far the most accurate I've ever seen from any carbon manufacturer I've worked with over the past five years. The weight is EXACTLY as calculated in the CAD program and everything fits beautifully. This is the lightest version of the three...but only by a few tenths of a gram.
Batch 4: Amaxinno (not here yet)
This will be a really big batch. They've been working on since before they sent the last batch. We've gone through enough iterations with them to get things perfect now. There should be zero issues moving forward.
It took literally forever (due to the CNY rush) but there’s a steady stream of parts coming in now. This frame is being manufactured by Amaxinno, NamelessRC and CNC Madness! Yes, all three of these manufacturers are working on supplying us with just this one frame! As such, there will be some variation among kits but all the parts are quality and compatible with each other. We needed to do this so that we could secure a supply chain.
The updates are significant and minor at the same time. The new parts are interchangeable with the old parts. The update is more than 1.5g lighter than the original with far more refined parts. Due to multiple manufacturers, the built weight will vary from 8.3-9.0g M2 press nuts are now used now make arm swap’s even quicker. There’s NO MORE TPU CENTER! The arms now puzzle together for a super secure lock and the entire structure is FAR more rigid.
The arm lock design has been one we’ve had for a while and isn’t original but we didn’t use it for the same reason a few others designers haven’t either. It looks like historical symbol that does not represent anything good or nice. We deeply apologize if this offends you but it really is the most efficient way we could come up with. The re-inspiration to use this again came from Johan of MadKwads.
- Multi Unit design
- T700 carbon in 0.5mm laminate thickness (thinner is better, typical is 1.5mm)
- 8.3-9g built frame base with hardware
- 1.5mm body plates, 2.5mm arms
- Accepts 1”x1” typical whoop mounting platform
- Good quality carbon but no chamfers to keep costs down
- Made to be used. Not a shelf ornament.
- Every line on this design is very delicately crafted for optimization
Multi Unit design benefits:
- Repairability when you smash it
- Skinnier arms for less thrust deflection and rotational drag
- Similar weight to a monobody of the same or lesser durability
- Cheaper to maintain
- Easier to repair and maintain
- Doesn’t ruin your flying day due to a crash
- 5x arms
- 1x lower body plate
- 1x top and FC mounting plate
- 10x rubber bands
- NO MORE TPU CENTER!
- 5x M2x6mm steel 10.9 hardness socket cap
- 4x M2x16mm steel 10.9 hardness socket cap
- 4x M2x20mm steel 10.9 hardness socket cap
- 5x M2 steel locknut
- 10x M2 press nuts (installed)
- Under 109g AUW with 3S 450mah
- Under 95g on 2S 450mah
- No smaller or larger than 450mah cells in 3S or 2S
- Press fit props on a 2mm prop shaft motor
- No more than ~7g per motor
- NO TPU SHOES ON THE ARMS!
3S 3” Drivetrain:
- FPVCycle 1303 5000kv 2mm press fit prop motors
- Gemfan 3016x3 2mm press fit
- Any of the Toothpick AIO 4S boards we offer
- GNB 450mah 3S battery
Want a bundled kit for all the recommended components?
- Check out the ToothPick 3 Self-Build Bundle
Want it Prebuilt and Ready to Fly?
- We can do that for you, check out the Ready To Fly prebuilt ToothPick 3
The TP3 story:
At its inception, the Toothpick formula was to turn a whoop inside out and give it the ability to perform like a much larger craft. Just a typical brushless AIO whoop board with similar motors but very large, very light 65mm(2.5in) props on a very light frame. The resulting performance was jaw dropping in any configuration from an AUW of ~37g on 1S to 73g on 2S and pure wackiness on 3S.
The goal with the Toothpick project was first and foremost to be safe for almost any environment, fully legal, quiet, durable, reliable and most importantly, loads of fun! These features should not be compatible with each other but the magic of crazy disk loading and power radios made it possible.
As with anything, the more you do it, the more developed and fine tuned your tools become. Like a surgeon that gets better at their craft and graduates to more and more developed instruments, the TP3 is literally a refined, purpose built, surgical instrument of the sky. If built to top end spec on 3S, this sucker is a frikin bullet! So throw that safety out the window. However the same setup on 2S becomes a very safe friend :-). Just as safe as the original Toothpick setup. The noise profile on 2S is significantly quieter than a 65mm/2.5” Toothpick twin blade on 2S. On 3S it’s still slightly quieter than a top power spec 65mm/2.5” Toothpick.
The TP3 formula is similar to the original. Extremely low weight, large props for such a low weight and the smallest motor that can spin that prop with good control. The pudding is in the details however and we spent months intensely testing everything just to find out that what we’re looking for doesn’t exist! So we started making custom parts. There is a lot in how it’s setup as well but that’s better left to the video than writing pages on pages...
Starting with the prop, we knew what we wanted but it didn’t exist. Having a good relationship with Gemfan, we carefully crafted a prop together and they got working on manufacturing. With the prop in mind, we then tested custom motor products from just about every known company out there before landing on a couple of gems...that only became good with numerous revisions. Other manufacturers will figure it out and give us more options in time but the two we have now are stellar. Given the crazy performance we were after, the frame also needed to be reimagined to perform and hold up to a new level of punishment. Next, we had to solve the annoyance with whoop boards and how difficult they were to solder. FullSpeed and BetaFPV were instrumental in the execution of the redesign and we now have two great options in case one runs into QC or reliability issues. The rest of the build is arbitrary but we prefer just a basic camera and Vtx to keep the weight down.
Performance wise, this thing is FAST. FAST fast. There are probably other things in this size class that are faster in a straight line, but that's not what we mean by fast. It’s like flying a laser pointer, it just does EXACTLY what you want it to do with absolute precision. Throttle control is also exquisite. It's a bit difficult to explain all the performance in words but when you fly one, you'll understand. The performance profile on a low weight load out also fits a Betaflight stock tune with just a little more TPA.
Durability is one area that may be in question and is where we need to put a little bit of a disclaimer on this style build. When built to top spec on 3S, this thing is VERY FAST and INSANELY AGILE. This build is designed for advanced pilots but it doesn’t mean that it’s weak or not for beginners. That’s actually far from true. The frame is quite robust, motors are quality built and even the prop shaft is beefed up. When you first learn to ski or snowboard, you fall. You fall a LOT. It hurts. As you improve, you learn how to fall. Pro level athletes do amazing things and also know how to fall amazingly well. As an FPV pilot, you learn how not to break your equipment….or, balls to the wall and you know you’re going to break it and are okay with it. To achieve this level of performance, high durability has been replaced with repairability. It definitely still takes quite a bit of force to break an arm. The extremely low weight means that if you’re a beginner and running 2S, it’ll be quite difficult to break. It really only becomes a hazard to itself when you're darting around at high speeds.
This thing is so incredibly easy to fly with its low weight and incredible control, it’s exactly what the advanced pilot needs to push their own limits and exactly what the novice wants to learn on.
This is the best 3” micro frame I’ve bought so far. All up my build is 49g without battery - seems to handle crashes extremely well.
Frame is solid, if you like using whoop boards for your build this is a great set up!
Shes Cute Little Frame However the LONG "Stainless" screws were Farked Beyond belief maybe they are 1mm hex head I dunno I ain't got one of those but they sure aint 1.5 mm better insight when I get more gear motors FC etc etc. OMG is there a friggin canopy on this site yet. I just peeked at various stuffs and realized you gotta order when its in stock because next week it wont be DAMN IT
Submitted review about a packing mistake and they fixed it within 5 min. Best customer service I have received in 5 years.
Nice frame. Really like ability to change arms. Not thrilled about the rubber bands holding the battery. With this frames modular build, how about a spare body part designed for a conventional velcro battery strap? I would buy it. Thanks FPVCycle!